Romans 8:9

Romans 8:9 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Please get this straight. This subject and these chapters in Romans can NOT be discerned line upon line or in an “expository” manner!!

As quick as possible I am going to show you the smallest “filthy rags” notes for this study;

1. Romans chapter 7 is written by the Filthiest Rag says “Saul” verse 24! Thus “HITLER” (the current times Jew killer and Jesus hater) introduces and writes the next chapters with this frame of context in the history of himself, his culture, his experience as a knowledgeable O.T. Jew who SURPASSED ALL THE DISCIPLES in the knowledge of scripture and probably all other studies! He was a Hebrew of all Hebrews who could literally claim to be a descendant of Abraham! He was by all account a “Jew murdering saved disciple” from the tribe of Benjamin. There is a tremendous amount of L.I.G.H.T.S.
   (Hank Hanegraaff’s-6 illuminating biblical principles to understanding the scripture from all the aspects needed. Just as Paul or Saul wrote many books from his perspective Luke wrote from a doctor’s perspective and can be seen in their writings as such with differences. Then there are many more dynamic and profound truths that must be applied before using our “21st century” perspective for example) principles needed to be applied to see the writer’s message.
2. Recognize before verse 8:28 who Paul is talking about! Paul literally dissects the Trinity and all three (3) of the Godheads are in this one single verse (Saul started in chapter 7 about his sinful carnal heart mind and soul for a very particular reason! The entire O.T. is always referenced as God the Father talking. Then when you get to the N.T. you see the disciples start introducing the birth of Jesus and then you can find the “stuff in red” pointed out by somebody else the words from Jesus. So far you now can claim 2 parts of the deity are distinguished in scripture as talking. But where have you ever heard a preacher bring forth the writings marked say in “gold”, that is the 3rd person of the deity talking?! You can not until now, Paul does it! Pay super close attention! Once you see this you will have to find other stories as the holy spirit in “gold” shows up on the pages and sometimes does not speak and sometimes he does; but, the recognition changes the whole perspective of the story you should have gotten! Hint for proof: When John is baptizing Jesus walks up. Should you not assume Jesus the begotten Son of God the Father is “full of the Holy Spirit”? You should; yet, he gets dunked and there comes the Holy Spirit out of heaven! He decends upon his shoulder and so Jesus walked up supposedly “without the Holy Spirit”?- We have not been taught how to read our bibles correctly!
   Many, many stories ARE REPRESENTATIONS FOR MAN not applicable for GOD; like that story!
   You probably are having a huge mind blowing smoke cloud fill your head right now because you have never thought of this, never thought it mattered, never shown why it matters, you can not figure out why it would? Well, how about Johavah’s witnesses? A person without this mind blowing started a cult!
   This is quintessential if you want to discern this small piece of the pie(the letter to the Roman church leaders not just the chapter or single verse)!
   The Holy Spirit is the subject of the talking in verse 26 and carried on through this verse 8:29! The Holy Spirit says “for whom” (this is everybody-Jesus, Adam, Eve, Abel, Cain and Saul, Abraham, David, Hitler, me, you, every wretched carnal minded, worldly flesh bound spirit) “he foreknew” (in the blueprints of God’s design of man-before the horizon of the first day of construction) that “his” (God the Father), he (Holy Spirit) also did “predestinate” ( an English word that creates more complex thinking than the original two words used by Saul but completely changed into a different word meaning. The original words “before horizon” does NOT SHOW “A DECIDED WILL”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ” Before the horizon” does not mean what the Calvinist force upon it!! BUT Saul does show the heart of the Holy Spirit with the new revelation (kinda like John writing Revelations) that there is a BLUEPRINT OR PLAN “BEFORE THE FIRST HORIZON”!! SO, now the new English converted word should be interpreted as a term like an anamorphism because of the lack of reading the rest of the bible and specifically the O.T. phrophicies that Saul knew by heart that you do not know! Or understanding that “designs” like your DNA which is a detailed
   “map” and like blueprints of construction projects “come before” any action that angels or humans did (no cause due to effect) says scripture: John 1:1- of course Saul didn’t have this verse just the Holy Spirit telling him this!) to be conformed (made just like in the first days of creation-particularly day 6 in the creation of man in God’s image living with him- HERE IS WERE THEY MISSED THE ARK- point number 3) in the image of his (God the Father) son (Jesus), that he (Jesus) might be the firstborn among many brethern (the next colosial point the theologians got wrong and drowned by-point #4).
   You probably still did not catch the point, so look at the list of flesh/humans I listed as the Holy Spirit foreknew. Do you see Jesus first? He was not born first! Yet the entire bible says he was! Yet you do not see that because it took Adam, through Eve to Noah to Abraham to David to Mary and you see a bloodline of flesh. The Holy Spirit is talking about the other birth! Ever preacher throws up the flesh in our face because of the lack of discerning correctly who (which part of the deity) is talking and about what; with the usual brainwashed Calvinism in their diploma mind).
3. “Predestinate” is not a Hebrew word; nor was the original words that are found in other verses the same that was here. Second, the studying of the Hebrew/ Greek/ English conversion is crazy and definitely can best be interpreted as an anamorphism (or a very complicated thought originally in the Hebrew language meaning “before the boundary”). Genesis 6:6 is a thought which is very hard to put into words. It is so hard that God shows “extreme emotion” to convey the “thought of ALL humans bound for hell”(with the exception of what becomes only Noah’s family)!
   Here Saul (Romans 7:24) is showing an “extreme emotion” that is also conveyed in other scripture (so a passage cannot be true unless it agrees with others so here are those he, Paul, also wrote and can only be tangled in this writing-Romans 1:17 pointing back to his O.T. knowledge of Hab. 2:4; Hebrews 11, Romans 4:13 & Heb. 10:38; Luke’s writing 12:20 with his in Hebrews 9:27). Thus the Holy Spirit just showed him in an another “extreme manner” (being blinded on the road and given the gospel in a diverse manner) that his Jew-killing Filthy Rag deserving of hell self “like that of Pharoah (possibly this even meant King -King Nebuchadnezzar a King close to his time period and actually ruled all of Egypt when he defeated King Necho of Egypt in 605 B.C. thus making him actually a “Pharoah”!- who worshipped false gods and by all scriptural interpretations was converted to Yahweh).
   Thus with all the other scripture references, including his own thoughts in other writings, Paul was clearly saying the Holy Spirit puts a spirit in every human that is told who has created him and who deserves what is “only reasonable” in worship as designed in the blueprints of creation and started with Adam. A sane individual can no more stretch this thought process than to say God put into man the desire for food and then after creating Adam he made some to like ice cream and some to like cow patties!!
4. The last part of the verse “…might be the firstborn among many brethren….” means several things. One thought Saul is slammed with is the absolute fact he by all rights is an heir to the covenant that God made with Abraham, his true Hebrew pureblood forefather Benjamin; yet, he gets told by God that all of his brethren are dying and going to hell with that theology (Romans 9:2-3). Why? Because they got the “bloodline” theology wrong! How? The bloodline of salvation is the same as the prophetic prophesies he knows so well, ALL OF THEM! The ones like Jacob (not firstborn); David (not firstborn), Jesus (second Adam-not firstborn), and many others! God’s plan of salvation is hidden deep in the “GREAT MYSTERY” story! That story is Jesus saves by adoption! Think of all the stories that prove that in prophetic typological ways. Then on top of all that the quintessential prophecy that God revealed to him was the stones from the blueprints of God’s design were the ones who would accept Christ!!! And here the Jew killer who saw so many people “attempting righteous church and living by the law with sacrifices” were doomed for hell! He was the opposite of all those he saw as “worthy” like so many today at church think they are “worthy” because they are attempting the “be-your-attitude” (another lesson later-regarding the sermon on the mount) to get into heaven. Saul was on his knees with a repentant HEART!! HE SAW HIS UNWORTHINESS AND SAW JESUS SACRIFICE HIMSELF FOR his filthy rag self! He clearly sees that Hebrew, the bloodline of Abraham, will enter the kingdom of heaven! For Abraham was an Adamite, who turned Hebrew at the tower of Babel. Abram became Abraham because of the spiritual change in his life; that entailed turning away from Torah’s false gods (his earthly father) and trusting in his new father before Torah which was Elohim (as Noah -whom he actually knew and probably saw, maybe even the Arc). Abraham BECAME AN ISRAELITE! That word means as much as becoming a “German”; but the people who became blond and blue-eyed did not worship Elohim, only those people that “looked like those of Abraham which became known as Israelites. So, Isreal became like a “Trademark”. If you stamped “Israelite” on a cow patty every person on the planet recognized that that “cow patty” was associated with the God that Abraham worshipped. Abraham’s God see kicked butt and made fools of every other false god! So, when the Israelites were enslaved because they also worshipped false gods like Pharaoh, the world still feared the people because of the “trademark” on their heads; not because of whom they worshipped (read David’s Psalms asking for God not to kill them all just so the lost people of the world do not forget the “trademark” (word picture) on their heads.
   Now, are you an “Israelite Indeed”? Hopefully! But, it is because of what Saul, all of a sudden, saw when he became blinded with that gut-wrenching feeling of how disgustingly nauseating he made God feel about himself as a human being and his Jew church brothers were going to hell.
   Jesus laid out the blanket for everybody! Just like someone who wants to show you a great day on a beautiful day at the lake with a King’s meal packed as a picnic! Come all those who hunger and thirst! Come all who seek hope and rest! Come all those who have no father or one who is horrible! Come to Jesus for he is the only way by adoption! He will put YOU FIRST IN LINE AMONG MANY BRETHREN! YOU WILL BECOME HEIR by him putting you first; not by you being born in some manner of rightful thinking (that is from the DEVIL!)!