Does God forgive lost people of the small (smallest of small) sins?
Matthew is used alot for “a” principle in forgiveness (but before you read Matt. unstrand it is directed ONLY toward a Christian when dealing with a Christian) you MUST USE the synergy principle of love, forgiveness, the sons of god, the sons of men, the understanding of the heart of the sons of men, the understanding of submission and the flesh is dead; and lastly the spiritual understanding of Jesus talking about doing acts of kindness for children, widows, those in prision, hungry and in need of food.
Lastly, remember the principle Jesus teaches us about the log. So, many people say Jesus says not to judge and they use Matt. 7:3 with a twist. They take Matt. 7:5 and rip it out of the bible and throw it in the trash. Then how can you ignore Romans 16:17? God says stay away from those that teach false doctrines. So I say to you read carefully and listen to the whole of scripture that the spirit teaches you correctly the spiritual word.
Now, #1. If you are a Christian what is the principle Jesus teaches Christians when someone (lost or saved) offends you? First you must recognize when you are saved by Jesus’ gift of mercy and the work that he did and the righteousness that he imputes to us YOU SHOULD CONSIDER YOURSELF DEAD! Now, when a person (lost or saved) offends you, who have they offended? By the word of God they have offended JESUS, NOT YOU!! You must get this in your head before continuing!!!
#2. If and only if for some reason that person has offended you, you would have to be IN THE FLESH! The only exception is NONE!! If a person murdered someone ( your friend) how can you claim a wrong to you? You can claim it by them being your brother or sister. But, they are at a higher level as they are a child of God. Thus, “vengence is mine”, says the Lord. Being mad and sinning NOT will probably be impossible, but that does not change the truth of scripture! If you let that murder increase BEYOND righteous anger you will create a sin that you carry like a dragging a suitcase behind you with the murder’s name on it.
#3. Jesus said, “Forgive them for they know not what they do.” Here if you continue with a forgiveness message and say Jesus is forgiving the lost you ARE WRONG! There is NO PRINCIPLE, NO VERSE THAT SAYS GOD FORGIVES those that curse him, reject him, worship other gods, or simply lied to Cain in Genesis! What do you do with Romans 1? What about John 6:66? What about Acts 26:18? What about the idea of working out your faith your entire life, sanctification, Acts 14:22? Does Jesus forgive without you asking? You can go there if you are a Calvinist. But, not if you read the scriptures! For even the thief on the cross asked for foregiveness and spoke a testimony of his faith with only one single breath left in his life, fullfilling the work of faitb required for him in recieving the work only Jesus could do on the cross beside him.
What about Acts 3:19? What about Luke 11:45-48 ( Jesus says the Rich man or the righteous guy living by the laws in the O.T. ( or even maybe a neighbor of yours today) AND SUCCEEDING will enter the after life and be judged for the death of Abel!!!!! ( Luke 11: 45-51) “For the wages of sin is death”(Romans 6:23) NOT FORGIVENESS!
I can keep going with more principles that God forgives those that ask and worship him. If you violate that simplified truth, you have strayed.
#4. Can you raise a dead man from the grave who resides in hell and do any good? Could you raise that guy out of hell and forgive him of half the sins in his entire life and it do any good?
#5. What must you (Christian) forgive of the lost man? Can you forgive him for a single sin that Jesus did not forgive?
Where are you with forgiveness now? First lets clear most of the lessions/parables/scriptures you have usually heard or used. It applys to Christian with Christian 70×7 times! Why that multiple? It means the righteous forgives/loves the more-righteous (that is what you get by putting them first- they become more important to God) FOREVER ( we are already a people of the everlasting).
So what is left is the what/why/how for Christians to forgive the lost?
Can you love Satan? Can you love someone who hates God whom he hates? You better be on God’s side ( what do those in heaven say: Rev. 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Revelation 6:10 KJV
Whether you are on earth or in heaven waiting you need to be a Christian with the heart of God! So how? YOU MUST RECOGNIZE 2 THINGS!
A. The spiritual meaning of the story of Jonah, and David, and the Prophets.
B. You must understand “the heart” you should have from those lessions above will be amplified if you die in the flesh ( Matt.11:23) by training your heart to love your enemies so they do well (Matt. 5:44) YOU WILL SEE THE LIGHT OF THE GOSPEL AND THE MISSIONARY VISION!!!
REVELATIONS
LUKE
THOSE VERSES GIVE US THE LOVE AND THE SINGLE REASON WHY WE BREATHE. YOU DON’T LOVE YOUR ENEMY, YOU CAN’T ( YOU CAN’T LOVE SATAN AND GOD)!
YOU CAN LOVE HUMANS THEY WAY JESUS DOES—- THAT WE ARE FILTHY RAGS– THEY ARE FILTHY RAGS— WE DESERVE HELL– THEY DESERVE HELL– WE WERE FORGIVEN— THEY “NEED TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS” AS WE DID– TIME IS SHORT FOR BOTH OF US! JESUS MAY COME BACK BEFORE WE GAVE THEM THE GOSPEL–SO GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND GIVE THEM WHAT SOMEONE GAVE YOU— THE GOSPEL!!!!
THE TRUTH IS ALL THAT SEPERATES. THE TRUTH DIVIDES US RIGHTEOUSLY!! BUT, JESUS TOLD US TO “PERSUADE” AS DAVID!! DAVID DIDN’T FORGIVE HIS BROTHERS, HE LOVED JESUS AND PUT HIMSELF AS DEAD. THEN HE LET JESUS USE HIM AS WE ARE SUPPOSE TO, SO THAT THEY SEE JESUS ( NOT us forgiving them — but JESUS forgiving them!!!) It does no good at all for a lost guy to get forgiveness and HE DOESN’T KNOW WHY!!!
JESUS does say, “forgive them for they know NOT what they do.” Jesus died 1. a physical death and 2. a spiritual death. But, for the people witnessing (lost and saved) their understanding to that CAN NOT BE UNDERSTOOD by the lost!! Jesus also was talking to himself in the 1st person for Christians to spiritualy discern; he really isn’t talking to God ( unless talking to yourself has a meaning– he is wanting US to learn!)
Jesus is the bread of life. Jesus said that if someone blasphemes the Son it shall be forgiven. Again, Jesus is reciting more scripture on the cross. Can a man that murders a man be forgiven? Isn’t that like all other sin in the eyes of God? Equal? So, go ahead spit, beat, whip, rip the flesh, make him bleed, make him cry, even kill him. You can be forgiven if what? Jesus says he brings light to the world of darkness. ( Study “light” in the scriptures. Some here: John 12:46; 2 Cor. 4:6; Luke1:79; John 8:12; Job 12:22; many, many others along with parables about light).
Jesus says, “forgive them for they know not what they do”. See if this sounds familiar:
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Matthew 12:31-32 KJV
http://bible.com/1/mat.12.31-32.KJV
You can not possibly think Jesus actually forgives a lost man crucifying him on the cross with the scripture above!!!
That verse IS NOT a verse to tell Christians we are suppose to forgive them ( the lost ) like Jesus did! It is to tell Christians to GO AND TELL THE LOST WE MURDERED HIM AND YOU CAN BE FORGIVEN ALSO IF YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THAT HE IS El Shaddai, the I AM!!
Jesus is making note to anyone that “WILL COME TO UNDERSTAND” his words of life WILL COME TO UNDERSTAND HE HAS BEEN FORGIVEN OF KILLING JESUS BUT HE DID NOT KILL THE SPIRIT ( BLASHPHEME the Holy Spirit)!!
