When Jesus ascends “from under the ground”/Hades/tomb he is with the thief and Abraham and the battle begins with those angels/stars “whom with their testimonies” ( Rev. 12:11) fought with the resurrected son and cast them out of heaven!!
This is the exact opposite of Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyer’s interpretation!
There was hell to pay but it was in heaven NOT in hell!
Joyce Meyers and Joel Osteen specifically believe and preach that Jesus went to Gehenna (but ignorantly she uses Hades which is actually where Abraham resides. Look it up. Make sure you recognize Lazarus is with Abraham and the “Rich man” is in an OPPOSITE place! So, if Jesus goes to where the rich man resides where a great gulf separates where no one can come or go between what does that do? Does Jesus pay Satan with Bitcoins? It is easy to become so sarcastic with absolute stupidity such as their teaching. Calling them stupid is much better than the truth of heresy teaching which it is! It destroys the deity of God! It destroys reason of so much more scripture! There is no way you can have spiritual discernment with so many prophecies of Jesus, heaven and hell. You might has well rip Revelations out of your bible!
Next, heaven is where the unbelieving/stars/angels DID NOT HOLD TO THE TRUTH OF Jesus when at the foundation of his announcement to those he created ( thus after he created their rear ends) that He/ “El” / was also the Son and Elohim whom was the creator and authority of the universe (Col. 1:17) Jesus, pre-incarnate, was there but Jesus was teaching all creation his character as “a hen protecting her chicks”(Matt. 23:37); God as the awesome spirit which can not be looked upon; and many others. Think of Jesus sitting on the throne as God the Father and speaks all this information while appearing as a cloud hovering the throne or a column of fire on the seat of the throne. Then when stops talking, the Son which he said would come and reside in flesh immediately appears in front of the throne but not sitting on it. Now he repeats the same information again and explains “my time has not yet come”!
Jesus, preincarnate, DECLARED HE WOULD AND ONLY THOSE ( INCLUDING THE ANGELS WHO BELIEVED THE WORD OF GOD) would live in and with him!
When Jesus dies, gives up his earthly physical body as human perceive death, raises his own life to fulfill Genesis. Now the entire bible including Revelation continues to tell you a story about Jesus’ life witnessed by John the disciple from a perspective that much of the other universe had been watching from Genesis to the resurrection to the time of much of the other Jesus’ personal life effects that would happen to people right after he died. John gets to see Jesus in heaven as he rises from the grave!!!! What an awesome thing to record!!! What another piece of evidence for Christians!!!!!!! Jesus shows John kicking Satan out, then like a movie he is writing about the flood, then he writes about seeing people from the past like prophets, he sees and testifies to physical buildings being occupied; he sees millions in heaven, he sees the angels which serve God in many many fashions, he go back to another time period of Christians being attacked like they never had because the Satan and his angels can not go back to heaven which occupies some of their time and now are more like permanent “snowbirds/hailbirds” on planet earth not able to go back “to the place of their first love”. John sees Satan literally living in Pergamum and all these Isrealites worshipping false gods and the burning of buildings from Roman leaders immediately after Jesus leaves, he sees the time period of the Tower of Babel, and so many more events from eyes of a spiritual dweller. He has to give many warnings of Jesus as real and the greek gods are fake in the spiritual world.
John must persuade that what Jesus said was all real! How could a person be more pumped than that? What better witness than finally a man going to heaven “and coming back to tell us what he saw”? The book is about more of Jesus! It is about more of why people of everytime period need him! It is not about a select few in 8,903.5 years and everybody else should just throw it away!
Thus the ones persuaded by Satan WITNESSED Jesus pick up the book and “Ate It” best figurative word picture of telling them where to go and who wins! Jesus/God the Father/the Holiest of Holy Spirits ALL SIT on the 1 throne now!!! His omnipresence ability is how he can reside in me and sit there! If you leave this earth and look to the left of Jesus’ throne or to the right of Jesus’ throne looking for God the Father you will be standing in his presence at the Great White Throne Judgement.
